Daggerfall Is Mean

[Nyctolops]

Have you ever noticed how Daggerfall will give characters enchanted
items that they cannot use? I am now playing with three characters
who cannot equip armor stronger than chain and what do they find in
dungeons? Advanced armor with Fortify effects. Of course, they
cannot find Formal Capes of the Orc Lord, no. They find Elven Boots
of the Orc Lord, and so on. Is this just me, or do the rest of you
find this?

Lachlar is a mage and can only equip blunt or short blades. So does
he find enchanted blunt weapons or short blades? No. He finds Elven
Bows of Fortitude or Long Blades of the Feet of Nogoro. Sheesh.
--
Nyctolops

[Xocyll]

Post by Nyctolops
Have you ever noticed how Daggerfall will give characters enchanted
items that they cannot use? I am now playing with three characters
who cannot equip armor stronger than chain and what do they find in
dungeons? Advanced armor with Fortify effects. Of course, they
cannot find Formal Capes of the Orc Lord, no. They find Elven Boots
of the Orc Lord, and so on. Is this just me, or do the rest of you
find this?

As far as I know treasure is mostly random.
I say mostly because it is keyed to your level, at lease with respect to
material type.

The game doesn't care what you can use or not.

Post by Nyctolops
Lachlar is a mage and can only equip blunt or short blades. So does
he find enchanted blunt weapons or short blades? No. He finds Elven
Bows of Fortitude or Long Blades of the Feet of Nogoro. Sheesh.

Welcome to a world that _DOESN'T_ revolve around your character.

This is a good thing.

I'd much rather kill a bow using/chain wearing assassin, then search the
body and find a bow and chain armor than search and find that his gear
has mysteriously changed into things that I can use.

The last character I ran through Daggerfall, wouldn't wear or use
anything that wasn't Red, Gold or Black. The one exception was the
original clothes you start in since you have no control over those.
All material types but dwarven, ebony, admantium and daedric forbidden.
All armor types forbidden.
All shields forbidden.
All weapons but daggers and 2handed swords forbidden.

Needless to say this character HAD to start with an ebony dagger.

Xocyll

[Nyctolops]

Post by Xocyll

Post by Nyctolops
Lachlar is a mage and can only equip blunt or short blades. So does
he find enchanted blunt weapons or short blades? No. He finds Elven
Bows of Fortitude or Long Blades of the Feet of Nogoro. Sheesh.

Welcome to a world that _DOESN'T_ revolve around your character.
This is a good thing.

I realize that the game doesn't revolve around the character. It just
seems to me that the chances of a non-armor wearing character finding
Fortify effect armor seem greater than that of an armor wearing
character. My characters who can wear any type of armor at all seem
to find Sandals of the Feet of Nogoro, while the non-armor wearing
ones find Silver Boots of the Feet of Nogoro.

Post by Xocyll
I'd much rather kill a bow using/chain wearing assassin, then search the
body and find a bow and chain armor than search and find that his gear
has mysteriously changed into things that I can use.

That is another thing that Daggerfall is weird at. I am always
finding Knights with a lot of leather armor in their inventories. I
seldom find a bow or arrows on the body of someone who has been
shooting arrows at me. Instead, I find lots and lots of arrows on
Skeletons, who *never* shoot arrows at anyone. In other words, the
weaponry and armor used by the NPCs very seldom matches what you find
on their bodies. In a way, this is rather cool, because you never
know what to expect when looting a body.

Post by Xocyll
The last character I ran through Daggerfall, wouldn't wear or use
anything that wasn't Red, Gold or Black. The one exception was the
original clothes you start in since you have no control over those.
All material types but dwarven, ebony, admantium and daedric forbidden.
All armor types forbidden.
All shields forbidden.
All weapons but daggers and 2handed swords forbidden.
Needless to say this character HAD to start with an ebony dagger.

My original post was intended to be more observation than complaint
really. I, too, have played characters with a lot of things forbidden
and had a lot of fun with them. It just seems to me that such a
character's chances of finding items of Fortify which he cannot equip
are much higher than a character's who can equip them. I even found a
Wand with Constant Effect Water Walking once. No one can equip that,
so it is utterly useless.
--
Nyctolops

[Magnus Itland]

Post by Nyctolops
Have you ever noticed how Daggerfall will give characters enchanted
items that they cannot use? I am now playing with three characters
who cannot equip armor stronger than chain and what do they find in
dungeons? Advanced armor with Fortify effects. Of course, they
cannot find Formal Capes of the Orc Lord, no. They find Elven Boots
of the Orc Lord, and so on. Is this just me, or do the rest of you
find this?
Lachlar is a mage and can only equip blunt or short blades. So does
he find enchanted blunt weapons or short blades? No. He finds Elven
Bows of Fortitude or Long Blades of the Feet of Nogoro. Sheesh.

I don't think the game goes out of its way to do this. It is just that
when enough random things happen, some really weird things will be among
them. To quote the Skeptic column in Scientific American:
"Once-in-a-million events happen 255 times a day in America."

Myself, I remember best once I came into a dungeon and in the very first
room to the left (where there is a table behind a wall, you may remember
that layout) there were two rangers, a male and a female. It came to
blows, as always happens in these cases, and they were easily dispatched.
When I searched their belongings, there was no armor to speak of and only
a cheap knife each, far below our level. And each of them was carrying a
flower. It was pretty obvious that they had not met there prepared for
fighting. I have never felt so mortified in my Daggerlife...